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2025/03/01 세기의 담판현장 트럼프 VS 젤렌스키

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ZyenYa 2025. 3. 1. 07:50

 

0:07
well if I didn't align myself with both of them 
you'd never have a deal 
0:13
you want me to say
really terrible things about Putin and then say 
hi Vladimir how are we doing on the deal 
that doesn't  work that way
0:22
I'm not aligned with Putin
I'm not aligned with anybody 
I'm aligned with the United States of America 
and for the good of the world 
0:29
I'm aligned with the world 
0:30
and I want to get this thing over with 
you see the hatred he's got for Putin 
it's very tough 
for me to
make a deal with that kind of hat he's
got tremendous hatred 
and I understand that 
but I can tell you the other side isn't exactly in love with 
you know him either 
0:46
so it's not a question of alignment 
I have to I'm aligned with the world 
I want to get the things set i'm aligned with Europe 
0:52
I want to see if we can get this thing done 
you want me to be tough
 I could be tougher than any human being you've 
ever seen I'd be so tough 
but you're never going to get a deal that way 
so that's the way it goes 

1:05
one more question 

1:07
I want to respond to this so look 
for four years in the United States of America 
we had a president who stood up at press 
conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin 
and then Putin
invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant 
chunk of the country 
the path to peace and the path to Prosperity
is maybe engaging in diplomacy 
we tried the pathway of Joe Biden 
of thumping our chest and pretending 
that the president of the United States's words 
mattered more than the president of the United States's actions 
what makes America a good country is America 
engaging in diplomacy 
that's what president Trump is doing 

1:43
can I ask you
sure yeah

1:48
okay so he occupied it
our parts big parts of Ukraine part of East and Crimea 
so he occupied it on 2014
so during a lot of years 
so I'm not speaking about just Biden but those time was 
Obama then President Obama then president Trump 
then President Biden now president Trump 
and God bless now president Trump will stop him 
but during 2014 nobody stopped him 
he just occupied and took 
he killed people you know what the contact
2:23
2015
2:24
2014 and 2014
2:30
so I was not here but that's exactly right 

2:32
yes but during 2014 untill 2022 
you the was the situation the same that people 
have been dying on the contact line 
nobody stopped him 
you know that we had conversations with him 
a lot of conversation my bilateral conversation 
and we signed with him me like a new president 
in 2019 I signed with him the deal 
I signed with him macron and Merkel we signed ceasefire
ceasefire all of them told me that he will never go 
we signed him with gas contract 
gas contract yes but after that he broken this his fire 
he killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners
we signed the exchange of prisoners but he didn't do it 
what kind of diplomacy
JD vance you are speaking about what what you
what you what do you mean 

3:27
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy 
that's going to end the destruction of your country
yes but 
Mr President Mr President with respect 
I think it's disrespectful for you to come 
into the Oval Office 
and try to litigate this 
in front of the American Media 
right now you guys are going around 
and forcing conscripts to the front lines 
because you have Manpower problems 
you should be thanking the president for trying to 
bring it into this conflict 
you been to Ukraine

3:48
that you say what problems we have 

3:52
I have been to come I have actually 
I've actually watched and seen the stories 
and I know what happens is you bring people
you bring them on a prop Anda tour 
Mr President are 
do you disagree that you've had problems
bringing people into your military 
and do you think that it's respectful 
to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America 
and attack the administration that is 
trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your country 

4:14
a lot of a lot of questions
let's start from the beginning 
first of all during the war 
everybody has problems even you 
but you have nice ocean and don't feel now 
but you will feel it in the future God bless you
don't know that God bless God bless you 
will not war don't tell us

4:32
what we're going to feel 
we're trying to solve a problem 
don't tell us what we're going to feel 
4:38
I'm not telling you
because you're in no position to dictate
4:39
that remember this 

4:42
you're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel
we're going to feel very good feel
influenc 
we're going to feel very good and very strong 
you will feel influenced
you're right now not in a very good position
you've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position 
and he happens to be right about 

4:57
from the very beginning of the war 

4:59
you're not in a good position
you don't have the cards right now with us 
you start having cards right now 
you don't you're playing cards 
you're playing you're gambling with the lives of millions of people 
you're gambling with World War 
I you're gambling with World War 3
and what you're doing is very 
disrespectful to the country
that's back you 
far more than a lot of people said they should

5:26
have have you said thank you once this entire meeting 
no in this entire meeting have you said thank you 
you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned 
for the opposition in October 
offer some words of appreciation 
for the United States of America 
and the president who's trying to save your country

5:43
please you think that 
if you will speak very loudly about the war  you can 

5:49
he's not speaking loudly 
he's not speaking loudly y
5:53
our country is in big trouble 
can I wait 

5:55
no no you've done a lot of talking 
your country is in big trouble
I know
you're not winning you're not winning this 
you have a damn good chance of coming out okay 
because of us Mr President 
6:04
we are staying in our country staying strong 
6:06
from the very beginning of the war we've been alone
6:08
6:10
and we are thankful I said thanks 
6:13
this cabinet in this C 

6:15
we gave you through this stupid president $350 billion 
we gave you military equipment 
and you men are brave but they had to use our military 
if you didn't have our military equipment 
inv if you didn't have our military equipment 
this war would have been over in two weeks

6:31
in three days I heard it from Putin in three days 
6:33
this
is something in two weeks of course he has 

6:38
it's going to be a very hard thing to do 
business like this I tell you to

6:42
just say thank you ex a l 
except that there
except except that there are disagreements 
and let's go litigate those disagreements 
rather than trying to fight it out in the American Media
when you're wrong 

6:53
we know that you're wrong 
but you see I think it's good 
for the American people to see what's going on 
I think it's very important 
that's why I kept this going so long 
7:02
you have to be thankful 
you don't have the cards 
you're buried there your people are dying
you're running low on soldiers listen 
you're running low on soldiers
 it would be a damn good thing
then you then you tell us 
I don't want to cease fire 
I don't want to cease fire I want to go and I want to this 
look 
7:23
if you could get a ceasefire right now 
7:25
I tell you you take it 
7:27
so the bullets stop Flying 
7:29
and you meant stop getting killed 
7:31
course we want to stop the war but I saying you don't want to ceas I said to
7:32
you I want a ceas guar because you'll
7:34
get a ceasefire faster than itre ask our
7:37
people about his fire what they think
7:39
that wasn't for that wasn't with me 
7:43
that was with a a guy named Biden who was not
7:45
a smart person that was that was with ob
7:48
it was your president excuse me 

7:50
that was with Obama 
who gave you sheets and I gave you javelins 
yes I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks
7:57
Obama gave you sheets 
in fact the statement is 
Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins 
you got to be more thankful

8:07
because let me tell you you don't have the cards 
with us you have the cards 
but without us you don't have any cards 

8:14
one more question to Mr Vice President I'm sorry here 
8:16
be a tough deal to make
because the attitudes have to change

8:22
what if Russia breaks this fire what if Russia brackes
these talks what do you do then understand that 
it's a he conversation right 

8:31
what are you saying

8:32
she's asking what if Russia breaks the
ceasefire what if they 

8:37
what if anything
what if a bomb drops on your head right
now okay 
what if they broke it 
I don't know they broke it with Biden 
because Biden didn't respect him 
they didn't respect Obama 
they respect me 

let me tell you 
Putin went through a hell of a lot with me 
he went through a phony Witch Hunt where
they used him and
Russia Russia Russia Russia 
you ever hear of that deal that was a phony 
that was a phony Hunter Biden 
Joe Biden scam Hillary Clinton 
Shifty Adam Schiff it was a Democrat scam 
and he had to go through that and he did go through it 
we didn't end up in a war 
and he went through it 
he was accused of all that stuff 
he had nothing to do with it
it came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom 
it came out of Hunter Biden's bedroom 
it was disgusting 
and then they said oh 
oh the laptop from hell was made by Russia

the 51 agents 
the whole thing was a scam
and he had to put up with that 
he was being accused of all that stuff 
all I can say is this 
he might have broken deals with Obama 
and Bush and he might have broken him with Biden 
he did maybe maybe he didn't I don't know what happened 
but he didn't break him with me

he wants to make a deal 
I don't know if you can make a deal 
the problem is 
I've empowered you to be a tough guy 
and I don't think you'd be a tough guy 
without the United States 
and your people are very brave 
but you're either going to make a deal or we're out 
and if we'r out 
you'll fight it out 
I don't think it's going to be pretty 
but you'll fight it out 
but you don't have the cards 
but once we sign that deal 
you're in a much better position 
but you're not acting at all thankful 
and that's not a nice thing I'll be honest 
that's not a nice thing

10:24
all right uh I think we've seen enough
what do you think huh 

10:29
this is going to be great television I will say
that all right 
we'll see what we can do about putting it together 

we'll see I don't know
than

0:07
음, 만약 내가 그 둘과 같은 편이 아니라면
당신은 결코 거래를 하지 못했을 거야
0:13
당신은 내가 푸틴에 대해
정말 끔찍한 말을 하길 원하고, 그러고 나서
안녕, 블라디미르, 거래는 어떻게 진행되고 있어? 라고 말하길 원해
그렇게는 안 돼
0:22
나는 푸틴과 같은 편이 아니야
나는 누구와도 같은 편이 아니야
나는 미국과 같은 편이야
그리고 세계의 이익을 위해
0:29
나는 세계와 같은 편이야
0:30
그리고 나는 이 일을 끝내고 싶어
그가 푸틴에 대해 품고 있는 증오를 봐
그가 그런 모자를 쓰고 거래를 하는 건 정말 힘들어
그가 엄청난 증오를 품고 있는
그리고 나는 그것을 이해해
하지만 나는 상대방이 정확히 그를 사랑하지 않는다는 걸 말할 수 있어
당신도 그를 알잖아
0:46
그래서 그것은 같은 편이 아니야
나는 같은 편이 되어야 해 나는 같은 편이야 world
나는 유럽과 일치하도록 일을 설정하고 싶어
0:52
나는 우리가 이 일을 해낼 수 있는지 보고 싶어
당신은 내가 강해지기를 원해
나는 당신이 본 어떤 인간보다 강해질 수 있어
나는 정말 강해질 거야
하지만 당신은 그런 식으로는 결코 거래를 성사시킬 수 없을 거야
그래서 그게 바로 일이야

1:05
한 가지 질문 더

1:07
이것에 답하고 싶어서
미국에서 4년 동안
우리는 기자 회견에서 일어나 블라디미르 푸틴에 대해 강경하게 말한 대통령이 있었습니다.
그런 다음 푸틴은
우크라이나를 침공하여 국가의 상당 부분을 파괴했습니다.
평화와 번영의 길은
아마도 외교에 참여하는 것입니다.
우리는 조 바이든의 길을 시도했습니다.
가슴을 두드리고 미국 대통령의 말이
미국 대통령의 행동보다 더 중요하다고 가장했습니다.
미국을 좋은 나라로 만드는 것은 미국입니다.
외교에 참여하는 것입니다.
트럼프 대통령이 하는 일이 바로 그것입니다.

1:43
물어볼 수 있습니까?
물론입니다.

1:48
좋아요. 그는 그것을 점령했습니다.
우리의 우크라이나의 큰 부분, 동부와 크림반도의 일부
그래서 그는 2014년에 그것을 점령했습니다.
그래서 오랜 세월 동안
그래서 제가 말하는 것은 아닙니다. 바이든뿐이었지만 그 당시는
오바마, 오바마 대통령, 트럼프 대통령
바이든 대통령, 지금은 트럼프 대통령
그리고 신의 축복이 있기를 지금 트럼프 대통령이 그를 막을 것입니다
하지만 2014년에는 아무도 그를 막지 못했습니다
그는 그냥 점령하고 빼앗았습니다
그는 사람들을 죽였습니다 알다시피 접촉
2:23
2015
2:24
2014년과 2014년
2:30
그래서 저는 여기 없었지만 그게 정확히 맞습니다

2:32
네 하지만 2014년부터 2022년까지
당신은 상황이 똑같았습니까? 사람들이
접촉선에서 죽어가고 있었습니다
아무도 그를 막지 못했습니다
우리가 그와 대화를 나누었다는 것을 알다시피
많은 대화, 양자 대화
그리고 우리는 그와 새로운 대통령처럼 서명했습니다
2019년에 저는 그와 거래에 서명했습니다
저는 그와 마크롱과 메르켈과 함께 휴전에 서명했습니다
휴전 그들 모두가 그가 결코 가지 않을 것이라고 말했습니다
우리는 서명했습니다 가스 계약이 있는 그 사람
가스 계약은 맞지만 그 후에 그는 불을 껐어요
그는 우리 국민을 죽였고 포로를 교환하지 않았어요
우리는 포로 교환에 서명했지만 그는 그러지 않았어요
어떤 종류의 외교
JD 밴스, 당신이 말하는 것은 뭐예요
당신은 무슨 말이에요?

3:27
저는 당신의 나라를 파괴하는 것을 끝낼 외교에 대해 말하고 있어요
그렇지만
대통령 각하, 존경하는 각하
저는 당신이
오벌 오피스에 들어와서
미국 언론 앞에서 이 문제를 소송하려고 하는 것은 무례하다고 생각합니다
지금 당신들은 돌아다니고
징집병을 최전선으로 강제로 보내고 있어요
당신은 인력 문제가 있기 때문이에요
당신은 대통령에게 이 갈등을
끌어들이려고 한 것에 대해 감사해야 해요
당신은 우크라이나에 갔었어요

3:48
당신이 말하는 것은 우리가 어떤 문제를 가지고 있는지

3:52
저는 실제로 왔어요
저는 실제로 그 이야기를 보고 보았습니다.
그리고 무슨 일이 일어나는지 압니다. 사람들을 데려오면
안다 투어에 데려오면
대통령 각하,
당신은 군대에 사람들을 데려오는 데 문제가 있었다는 데 동의하지 않으십니까?
그리고 미국 대통령 집무실에 와서
당신의 나라를 파괴하려는 행정부를 공격하는 것이 예의 바른 일이라고 생각하십니까?

4:14
많은 많은 질문
처음부터 시작해 봅시다
우선 전쟁 중에
모두가 문제를 가지고 있습니다.당신도 마찬가지입니다
하지만 당신은 아름다운 바다를 가지고 있고 지금은 느끼지 못합니다
하지만 미래에 느낄 것입니다 신이 당신을 축복합니다
그것을 모릅니다 신이 당신을 축복합니다 신이 당신을 축복합니다
전쟁이 일어나지 않을 것입니다.우리에게 말하지 마십시오

4:32
우리가 무엇을 느낄지
우리는 문제를 해결하려고 합니다
우리가 무엇을 느낄지 말하지 마십시오
4:38
말하지 않을 것입니다
당신은 지시할 위치에 있지 않기 때문입니다
4:39
이것을 기억하십시오

4:42
당신은 우리가 무엇을 느낄지 지시할 위치에 있지 않습니다
우리는 매우 좋은 느낌을 느낄 것입니다
영향력
우리는 매우 좋고 매우 강할 것입니다
당신은 영향을 받을 것입니다
당신은 지금 매우 좋은 위치에 있지 않습니다
당신은 자신을 매우 나쁜 입장
그리고 그는

4:57
전쟁이 시작된 이래로

4:59
당신은 좋은 입장이 아닙니다
당신은 지금 우리와 함께 할 카드가 없습니다
당신은 지금 카드를 가지고 있습니다
당신은 카드를 가지고 있지 않습니다
당신은 수백만 명의 사람들의 삶을 걸고 도박을 하고 있습니다
당신은 1차 세계 대전과 도박을 하고 있습니다
1차 세계 대전과 도박을 하고 있습니다
그리고 당신이 하는 일은 매우
나라에 대한 무례한 일입니다
그것은 당신에게 돌아왔습니다
많은 사람들이 말했던 것보다 훨씬 더

5:26
이 회의 전체에서 한 번 감사하다고 말씀하셨나요?
아니요, 이 회의 전체에서 감사하다고 말씀하셨나요?
당신은 펜실베이니아에 가서 10월에 야당을 위해
선거 운동을 했습니다
미국과 당신의 나라를 구하려는 대통령에게
감사의 말씀을 전하세요
5:43
제발 그렇게 생각하세요
만약 당신이 매우 전쟁에 대해 큰 소리로 말할 수 있습니다.

5:49
그는 큰 소리로 말하지 않습니다.
그는 큰 소리로 말하지 않습니다.
5:53
우리나라는 큰 곤경에 처해 있습니다.
잠깐 기다릴 수 있나요?

5:55
아니 아니, 당신은 많은 말을 했습니다.
당신 나라는 큰 곤경에 처해 있습니다.
알아요.
당신은 이기지 못할 겁니다. 당신은 이길 수 없습니다.
당신은 잘 나올 가능성이 매우 큽니다.
우리 덕분에요, 대통령님.
6:04
우리는 우리 나라에 머물며 강해지고 있습니다.
6:06
전쟁이 시작된 이래로 우리는 혼자였습니다.
6:08
6:10
그리고 우리는 고맙습니다. 내가 고맙다고 말했기 때문입니다.
6:13
이 C의 이 내각

6:15
우리는 이 멍청한 대통령을 통해 3,500억 달러를 줬어
우리는 군사 장비를 줬어
그리고 당신들은 용감하지만 그들은 우리 군대를 써야 했어
우리 군사 장비가 없었다면
우리 군사 장비가 없었다면
이 전쟁은 2주 안에 끝났을 거야

6:31
3일 만에 푸틴에게서 3일 만에 들었어
6:33
이건
물론 2주 안에 뭔가가 있을 거야

6:38
이런 일을 하는 건 정말 어려울 거야
이런 사업을 하라고

6:42
그냥 고맙다고 말해 전직 대통령
단지
단지 의견 불일치가 있다는 걸 제외하고
그리고 그 의견 불일치를 소송으로 해결하자
미국 언론에서 싸우려고 하지 말고
당신이 틀렸을 때

6:53
우리는 당신이 틀렸다는 걸 알아
하지만 미국인들이 무슨 일이 일어나고 있는지 보는 게 좋다고 생각해
내 생각엔 매우 중요해
그래서 내가 이걸 오랫동안 계속한 거야
7:02
고맙게 생각해야 해
카드가 없어
그곳에 묻혀 있고 국민들이 죽어가고 있어
군인이 부족해 들어봐
군인이 부족해
정말 좋은 일이야
그러면 넌 우리에게 말해
나는 휴전을 원하지 않아
나는 휴전을 원하지 않아 가고 싶어 그리고 이걸 하고 싶어

7:23
지금 당장 휴전을 할 수 있다면
7:25
내가 말해 너한테 받아들여
7:27
그래서 총알이 날아가는 걸 멈추고
7:29
그리고 넌 죽는 걸 멈추라는 말이야
7:31
물론 우리는 전쟁을 멈추고 싶지만 내가 네가 휴전을 원하지 않는다고 말했잖아
7:32
너한테 휴전을 원해 왜냐하면 네가
7:34
그보다 더 빨리 휴전을 할 수 있을 테니까 우리
7:37
국민들에게 그의 화재에 대해 물어보렴 그들은 생각한다
7:39
그건 그게 아니었어, 그게 나랑 함께 있지 않았어
7:43
그건 바이든이라는 사람과 함께 있었는데, 그는
7:45
똑똑한 사람이었어, 그게 옵과 함께 있었어
7:48
그건 당신의 대통령이었어, 실례합니다

7:50
오바마와 함께
당신에게 시트를 주고 나는 당신에게 창을 줬어요
네, 저는 당신에게 모든 탱크를 제거할 창을 줬어요
7:57
오바마가 당신에게 시트를 주었어요
사실 그 진술은 다음과 같습니다
오바마가 시트를 주고 트럼프가 창을 줬어요
당신은 더 감사해야 해요

8:07
당신에게 카드가 없다고 말씀드리죠
우리와 함께라면 카드가 있어요
하지만 우리가 없다면 카드가 하나도 없어요

8:14
부통령님께 한 가지 더 질문할게요. 죄송합니다
8:16
어려운 거래가 될 거예요
왜냐하면 태도가 바뀌어야 하니까요

8:22
러시아가 이 불을 끄면 어떨까요?러시아가 괄호를 긋는다면
이런 회담을 하면 어떻게 하나요?그렇다면 이해하세요
그건 그 사람의 대화죠

8:31
무슨 말씀을 하시는 건가요

8:32
그녀는 러시아가
휴전을 깼다면 어떨까요? 그들은

8:37
무슨 일이야
폭탄이 네 머리에 떨어진다면
지금 당장 알았어
그들이 그것을 깨뜨렸다면
난 몰라 그들이 바이든과 함께 그것을 깨뜨렸어
바이든이 그를 존중하지 않았기 때문이야
그들은 오바마를 존중하지 않았어
그들은 나를 존중해

내가 말해 줄게
푸틴은 나와 함께 엄청난 일을 겪었어
그는 가짜 마녀사냥을 겪었어
그들이 그를 이용했고
러시아 러시아 러시아 러시아
그 가짜 거래에 대해 들어본 적 있어?
그것은 가짜 헌터 바이든
조 바이든 사기 힐러리 클린턴
쉬프티 애덤 쉬프는 민주당 사기였어
그리고 그는 그것을 겪어야 했고 그는 그것을 겪었어
우리는 전쟁으로 끝나지 않았어
그리고 그는 그것을 겪었어
그는 그 모든 것들로 비난받았어
그는 그것과 아무 상관이 없어
그것은 헌터 바이든의 욕실에서 나왔어
그것은 헌터에서 나왔어 바이든의 침실
역겹더군요
그리고 그들은 오라고 말했습니다
오, 지옥의 노트북은 러시아에서 만들었습니다

51명의 요원
모든 것이 사기였습니다
그리고 그는 그것을 참아야 했습니다
그는 그 모든 것에 대해 비난을 받았습니다
제가 말할 수 있는 것은 이것뿐입니다
그는 오바마와
부시와 거래를 어겼을 수도 있고 바이든과도 거래를 어겼을 수도 있습니다
그는 그랬을 수도 있고 그렇지 않았을 수도 있습니다 무슨 일이 일어났는지 모르겠습니다
하지만 그는 나와 그를 어기지 않았습니다

그는 거래를 하고 싶어합니다
당신이 거래를 할 수 있을지 모르겠습니다
문제는
나는 당신이 강인한 사람이 되도록 권한을 부여했다는 것입니다
그리고 나는 당신이 미국 없이 강인한 사람이 될 수 없을 것이라고 생각합니다
그리고 당신의 사람들은 매우 용감합니다
하지만 당신은 거래를 하거나 우리는 나갈 것입니다
그리고 우리가 나가면
당신은 그것을 싸울 것입니다
나는 그것이 예쁘지 않을 것이라고 생각합니다
하지만 당신은 싸워라
하지만 넌 카드가 없어
하지만 우리가 그 거래에 서명하면
넌 훨씬 더 나은 입장에 있을 거야
하지만 넌 전혀 고맙게 여기지 않아
그리고 그건 좋은 일이 아니야 솔직히 말해서
그건 좋은 일이 아니야

10:24
좋아요, 어, 우리는 충분히 봤다고 생각해요
어떻게 생각하세요?

10:29
이건 훌륭한 텔레비전이 될 거예요
그거 말할게요, 좋아요
우리는 어떻게 조립할지 알아볼 거예요

알아볼게요, 모르겠어요
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